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DERMOT MURNAGHAN:
Now then, to the City of London and matters I suppose concerning with what we have just been discussing, protestors have been holding a debate with the Bishop of London and the Dean of St Paul’s about the reasons behind their continued occupation of the land in front of the Cathedral and the Bishop of London, there he is, the Right Reverend Richard Chartres, joins us from St Paul’s now. A very good morning to you, Bishop, you have had those discussions as I say, what did you tell them and what was the feedback?

BISHOP OF LONDON:
I have been there for, well, a couple of hours and we first of all had a conversation in the Tea and Empathy Tent which was very interesting indeed because of course my anxiety all the time has been to focus on some of the issues that are being raised, because we are all in a time of painful adjustment. Your item that we just heard illustrates that and that there are no easy answers. So I was very anxious to hear from those involved what issues they really wanted to highlight and more than that, to find ways in which we could develop a dialogue that could actually lead to some results.

DERMOT MURNAGHAN:
There is that but there is also the practical issue of the location, isn’t there, it is causing much debate. Is outside St Paul’s Cathedral the appropriate place to make these points however orderly it may be?

BISHOP OF LONDON:
Well of course … well yes, but it wasn’t the choice of course of those who had erected their tents, as you know they originally expected to be going to the Stock Exchange and that’s not been possible so we’ve got the tents there and I think it’s very clear that everybody concerned, and I was very impressed by some of the people I met, their willingness to co-operate with St Paul’s Cathedral on securing access, the desire by everybody to avoid violence, so I think that was very encouraging and indeed some of the speakers, I then went to a forum in front of the steps and some of the speakers were saying well of course the camp will probably take a different form, we shan’t be here forever. So I think that the essential thing now is not to paint this thing as two sides but to look together at a future which is full of difficulties and to try and have an intelligent dialogue and not just monologues about the importance of dialogue.

DERMOT MURNAGHAN:
So would you counsel the City of London Corporation against seeking an active eviction?

BISHOP OF LONDON:
As far as I can see, any prudent organisation, and St Paul’s is certainly that and I’m not responsible of course for the legal action so I can’t be speaking for them or making decisions for them, but any prudent organisation doesn’t quite know what’s going to happen down the road so they are making the legal situation absolutely clear but I think to leap from that to talking, as some people have been, about inevitable violence is a leap too far. It is not at all helpful at the moment when we really want to focus on some of the basic and fundamental issues that concern every single one of us.

DERMOT MURNAGHAN:
Bishop, thank you very much indeed for your time this morning, thank you for speaking to Sky News.

BISHOP OF LONDON:
Thank you very much, thank you.